- Introduction.
- Other calendar
systems, as our Grgorian calendar.
- 1'5xx BC Volcanic
disaster distroys Thera and the Minoan civilization
- 2'200 BC to 2'700
BC, Biblic flooding?.
- 2'794 BC Maya
calendar points to unknown event.
- Guizeh
constructions.
- Maya calendar starts
at 3114 BC.
- 9'600 BC Atlantis
disaster according Plato.
- 9'792 BC Denderah
zodiac contains special sign in Lion.
- The world average
temperature chart.
- Lignup dates from
11'442 BC to 6'083 BC, program listing.
Introduction.
In this
page I will list the most important dates, and try to analyse which of
the dates is closest to the actual possible date of the cataclism.
What does not mean that other cataclisms did not
happen, it could very well be that nobody took note of it, or that
the other cataclisms did have survivors capable of taking note in
some kind of writing. This is true for biblic
flooding, then this story is told by the word of mouth, and ony very-very
later it has been written down, but by then the essential details
about veryfiable dates have been lost already.
We should
also note that any calendar system based on some number of days will
become invalid from the moment onwards where the Earth rotation speed
and angle has been changed. (Please note that even a very little
change, like a « little » piece of rock in oder
of magnitude of 1 Km, will change any day numbering calendar with an
error rate of several weeks when the time of the event is back 10'000
years or more)
Today the
Denderah zodiac, (I do not
realy understand how this thing works, but I will try to find this
out later) seems to be the only calendar who uses star
positions instead of a certain number of days, and this calendar
could have been valid 12'000 years ago or more, and could still be
valid today. Even then when the actual one must be
a copy, then it relates to events who ocurred when acient Egyptian
Denderah temple did not exist yet.
An other
possible calendar system or zodiac system is this famous Nazca
« Aerodrome » plane, this however has been
certainly be displaced and oriented to in a intire different
direction by the cataclism, and points today to nothing known. It
would be interesting to map carfully all the lines, thier horizontal
orientation and vertical positions, and then try to find a matching
orientation by orienting virtually the plane East-West and Up-Down
and try to find matching positions. But there are
unfortunally a lot of possible star positions and as many possible
plane positions, which could make the task near to impossible unless
you have a Tita-Flopp machine, like a « Cray »,
to do the job.
Other calendar systems other as our Gregorian Calendar.
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Nazca « Aerodrome »
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Denderah Zodiac
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Maya calendar
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Stonehenge
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A today unknown
calendar system, possibly star positions.
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Zodiac based calendar, uses star positions, still valid today,
seem to repeat about every 98'000 years
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Day numbering system, based on about 365 days per year, repeats
about every 374'000 years.
Also used by the Aztec, see their
calendarstone.
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Anciant calendar, marks the even today valid summer solstice.
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1'5xx BC Volcanic disaster distroys Thera and the Minoan
civilization.
Around 1'500 BC the
island Thera is distroyed by a volcanic disaster, from which traces
have been found up to in ancient Egypt, and possibly put an end to
the Minoan civilization. This civilization is
considered by many scientists as Atlantis, because by dividing all
the Plato figures by 10, you will get about the correct time and
sizes. (Time 600 BC for the
story + 900 additionel years makes 1'500 BC, besides the plane of 55
by 19 Kms, everything would perfectly fit, and the town is then for
that time reasonable size to).
This is however in
opposition to Platos writing who pretends that a:
The strory is true, b: Ancient Athens and Egypt are
within the Pillars and Atlantis was Outside the pillars, c: Thera
does not have and did not have hot water fountains, d: Thera
does and did not have high mountains on the north to protect the
South agains the cold wind. than in the Mediterian there is and
was no cold wind from the north to protect from.
2'200 BC to 2'700 BC, Biblic flooding?.
The biblic flooding is
supposed to have taken place from 2'500 BC to 2'700 BC. (This
date is obtained by some bible specialists, and is mainly done by
taking the bible and add up the ages of the persons since the birth
of JC until Noah) There is however from this event no
visible trace, and none has not been found yet including the ark.
Then when realy something has happened that time, the acient Egyptian
culture should have noted it fore sure, and should have left us whith some kind
of writing relating such an event, since this event is supposed to be
have taken place by about the same time that the Great Pyramids in
Guizeh have been build.
2'794 BC Maya calendar points to unknown event.
Inscriptions have been
found in some maya temples relating to a 14 day period going from
maya date 1.18.5.3.6 to maya date 1.18.5.4.0, which is a today unknow
event, it is even unknown whether the Maya culture existed yet this
time, and why they metioned this period. The supprising
point of this time period mentioned by the Maya's is that the time matches
the time of the flooding found by some bible specialists.
Guizeh constructions.
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The Guizeh constructions
are beleeved to have been build fromm around 3'500 BC until 2'500
BC, than even when the Egyptian Pharaons did leave correct dating,
there are still a lot of scientists how put an other date to the
events.
One thing is for sure
they were not build before the cataclism (some
people pretend that the construction dates should be back as far
as 10'500 BC!), then the most are positioned such that
they point to today known positions, related to actual known
stars, or like the relation towards actual north, in opposite to
what displacement by a cataclism or astriod impact should have
done, then in that case they would have pointed to nowhere and
nothing known like the famous Nazca « Aerodrome »
who does not point to any today known position as well.
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Maya calendar starts at 3114 BC.
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The maya calendar starts
at a date around 3114 BC to 3112 BC, this depending how you count
the dates and the days, then our calendar is not correct.
Now the question
remains, was there a event what made them start a calendar?, or
was this maybe a religious raison (Venus
- Moon - Mars - Jupiter constellation?) like we did with
the birth of JC. Then anyway thier calendar
seems to correspond to particular Venus - Moon - Mars - Jupiter
constellations.
Someone should however
note that when you count the date whith our today valid Gregorian
calendar with correction for the Julian calendar you will obtain
3114 BC, however when you divide the number of days by 365.2425
and you do count a year « 0 » then you
obtain 3112 BC and when you do not count a year « 0 »
then you obtain 3113 BC , thus pick the one you like!.
All this depends
what we can call a year, is a year a complete calendar year, as
most of the people (Day-count
based calendars), or do we have to consider a complete
revolution of the Earth orbit around the Sun as a year (Zodiac
based calendars)
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9'600 BC Atlantis disaster according Plato.
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 (Citation)
Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful
empire which had rule over the whole island and several others,
and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of
Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of
Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia. This
vast power, gathered into one, endeavoured to subdue at a blow our
country and yours and the whole of the region within the straits;
and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of
her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in
courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes.
And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand
alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she
defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from
slavery those who were not yet subjugated, and generously
liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars.
But afterwards
there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day
and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into
the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared
in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts
is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in
the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.
Dating:
Plato wrote the dialogs at 380 BC, the dialogs themselfs go at 600
BC, and the related event go 9'000 years before that, adding up at
9'600 BC.
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9'792 BC Denderah zodiac contains special sign in Lion.
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The above pictures
illustrates a reference in the Denderah zodiac, which seems to
have a special sign in Lion which which seems to point to a date
in 9'792 BC, the person who analysed this (I cannot find back
his/her site, sorry) beleeved that this could be a possible
date for the Deluge, the Atlantis desaster, or any other desaster.
(I did copy the references,
then I do not understand this thing to well, I will try to
understand this at some later date).
This could indeed
very well possible date, then the date differs « only »
192 years with Plato's date, as well that some orbits were
unstable that time due to a Jupiter - Saturn - Uranus and
Neptune lignup. (more in
the programm listing below)
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The world average temperature chart.
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As a result of a
possible astriod or comet impact we must expect that the world
average temperature will drop between 5 °C and 15 °C for a
period of several hunderd years due to volcanic dust and smoke in
the stratosphere obstructing the sunlight, and should therefore
move from a predeluvian level of around - 4 °C to a
temporary level of - 10 °C or lower for a several
hunderd years, and than rise to the actual level, as illustrated
by the second drawing.
The first image shows
that around 10'000 BC we do have such temperature profile and that
time maches also the Plato dating, as well the Denderah zodiac
dating, and we do also have those dates strange lignups in the
order: Earth - Moon - Venus - Sun - Jupiter - Saturn - Uranus -
Neptune.
We should note that we
have an other dip between 5'000 and 3'000 BC, but a relation with
an event remains unknown to me as of this moment.
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Lignup dates from 11'442 BC to 6'083 BC.
Listing of possible
dates of strange lignups in the order: Earth - Moon - Venus - Sun
- Jupiter - Saturn - Uranus and Neptune, which could have caused
a cataclism. Please note that all this dates are
solar years, in other words the Earth makes a complete orbit around
the Sun. The months reported in the listing are symple fractions
of the Earth angular position in degrees divided by 30.
This
reflects very closely a month, then there is today no accurate calendar
available for that period of time.
I have used January 1,
2000 as reference point « 0 », being the pont
of 0 degrees and January 1, 2001 being 360 degrees. The
calculation is done by counting the number of days from there on
onwards or backwards, considering that a day goes from noon until
noon the next day, and that a year is the period that the Earth
completes an orbit around the sun being 365.2425 solar days actually.
You should note that a
complet 360 degree turn of the Earth takes 23 hours and 56 minuts,
and that this does not match a complete day, than a complete day is
360.9856 degrees due to the Earth movement around the Sun, because it
has to turn a little more to face the Sun again.
We should look for a
date matching an event in beginning August up to end September latest,
or between mid January until end mid March, and this due the position of the Moon orbit
inclination and the possible Earth tilt of axis change which could
only have taken place in one of those periods of time.
(The lign-up dates 9'537 BC and
9'716 BC do match perfectly Plato's dialogs with a difference 63 and
116 years only, supposing that Plato counted solar years to!).
Particulary interesting is a statement in the section flood myths concerning
the Cheyenne Indians, the they reported:
One particularly hard winter had "great floods" in addition
to earthquakes and volcanoes. The people spent the long winter
in caves.
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Listing of
lign-ups from 11'442 BC to 6'083 BC
Reference 0° : = Position of the Earth at january 1Th All positions in degrees relative to Earth orbit
One year : = A completed orbit of the Earth around the Sun
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Year Mercury Earth Jupiter Uranus Moon
Month Venus Mars Saturn Neptune Duration
-6083-Jan - 37 - 322 - 348 - 276 - 186 - 140 - 186 - 196 Full - 1
-6776-Apr - 283 - 114 - 109 - 312 - 317 - 317 - 272 - 272 New - 2
-6776-Apr - 326 - 131 - 120 - 318 - 318 - 317 - 272 - 272 New - 1
-6955-May - 181 - 172 - 151 - 36 - 352 - 345 - 319 - 304 New - 2
-7452-May - 335 - 107 - 136 - 115 - 314 - 296 - 287 - 312 Full - 1
-7631-May - 137 - 127 - 154 - 186 - 348 - 323 - 334 - 344 New - 6
-7631-Jun - 198 - 151 - 169 - 194 - 349 - 324 - 334 - 344 New - 6
-7810-Jun - 300 - 149 - 174 - 258 - 22 - 350 - 21 - 16 New - 2
-7810-Jun - 290 - 168 - 186 - 264 - 23 - 351 - 21 - 16 New - 6
-7810-Jul - 45 - 189 - 199 - 271 - 24 - 351 - 21 - 16 Full - 3
-7989-Jul - 217 - 214 - 220 - 344 - 58 - 19 - 68 - 49 New - 1
-9178-Dec - 242 - 296 - 323 - 97 - 150 - 147 - 122 - 133 New - 6
-9357-Dec - 34 - 312 - 339 - 167 - 184 - 174 - 169 - 165 New - 6
-9357-Jan - 95 - 336 - 354 - 175 - 185 - 174 - 169 - 165 New - 6
-9358-Jan - 157 - 180 - 9 - 183 - 186 - 175 - 169 - 165 New - 6
-9537-Jan - 253 - 355 - 12 - 246 - 218 - 202 - 216 - 197 New - 5
-9537-Jan - 308 - 16 - 25 - 253 - 220 - 202 - 216 - 197 New - 6
-9537-Jan - 70 - 40 - 40 - 261 - 221 - 203 - 216 - 197 New - 6
-9716-Feb - 165 - 58 - 57 - 331 - 255 - 230 - 263 - 229 New - 6
-9716-Feb - 222 - 81 - 71 - 339 - 256 - 230 - 263 - 229 New - 6
-9895-Mar - 81 - 123 - 104 - 57 - 291 - 258 - 310 - 262 New - 5
-10905-May - 148 - 123 - 150 - 80 - 346 - 358 - 316 - 314 New - 2
-10905-May - 195 - 142 - 161 - 86 - 347 - 358 - 317 - 314 New - 3
-11084-Jun - 283 - 161 - 179 - 157 - 21 - 25 - 3 - 346 New - 5
-11084-Jun - 50 - 183 - 193 - 164 - 22 - 26 - 4 - 346 New - 4
-11263-Jul - 209 - 202 - 211 - 235 - 55 - 53 - 50 - 18 New - 6
-11263-Jul - 265 - 224 - 224 - 242 - 57 - 53 - 51 - 18 New - 5
-11442-Oct - 122 - 266 - 256 - 320 - 91 - 81 - 98 - 50 New - 5
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Note :
The above lign-ups are calculated within some limits, they are certainly not perfect lign-ups,
but they are sufficiently close to be considered as a complete lign-ups.
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Programm liting:
<Position.c>
Listing from 8'000 BC
to 7'000: <List1.txt>
Listing from 24'000 BC
to 8'000 BC: <List2.txt>
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